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[(Anonymous)]

"women can be as irresponsible as they want and must be free of fault and consequences!"

What is irresponsible about dressing "slutty" or having sex with protection, anon?

Oh. You're actually in the "everything is women's fault including men's inability of self control!" camp but want to pretend you're not, gotcha.

[(Anonymous)]

When did I say dressing in revealing clothes or having sex with protection is irresponsible? Having safe sex is something people should insist on.

An example of what I find is irresponsible is when a woman piles up risk after risk:
- getting yourself intoxicated
& or taking drinks/pills whose contents you can't vet,
& in presence of a lot of strangers, some or most also intoxicated (which does affect their self-control) and whose moral qualities are unknown,
& in chaotic atmosphere with cultural elements (like music, lyrics) that encourages people to "let loose",
& without a reliable buddy system,
& without physical strength or self-defense skill (which are not even almost effective, including when sober),
all of which exacerbates their own vulnerability.

Is it wrong to want to have fun? Surely not. But survival skills tend to involve being careful in what you're getting into, be it a party, a boyband meet & greet, a sea, a mountain, a heavy-machinery factory, the business world, busy traffic, the stock market, etc. Against something that many women see as a more serious calamity than losing a wallet or even a finger joint, is it worth it to put yourself in that much risk, especially knowing thousands of years of human history? This is what I don't understand, and I can't rationally applaud that way of adding to our already vulnerable position as something advisable. Doesn't mean if someone in that situation should be further vilified if they fall victim, but at that point, how much of a remedy would help? There's only firefighting to be done. Would executing the rapist, hypothetically, help?

There is much work needed to peel rape culture away from people, especially people in position of power. I just don't believe it could be achieved by putting forth the message of, like in the picture above, I WILL DO ANYTHING I WANT RIGHT NOW AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT (EVEN THOUGH I REALISTICALLY KNOW THERE IS) as a priority. Especially since most rapes don't even happen in that setting, but at daytime in places you think is 'safe', with a high percentage of abusers being relatives, or someone with power over the victim like a teacher or an employer. It just feels like the focus is not placed in the bigger problem: How do we change the mentality of all women as public property long before rape happens?

Sexual education, early childhood education, empowering women economically, neighbourhood cohesion, scrutinizing and monitoring the justice system, putting people with good views in political offices, building people's confidence to call out rape culture behaviors as something socially unacceptable to the face of the perpetrators... I believe in those. Otherwise it'll just be a security that is given, and can be taken anytime, no matter how much yelling and firefighting is done.

[(Anonymous)]

First you make the argument that a women should protect her virtue like she protects her wallet, and then you argue that it's horrible that women are seen as objects.

Make up your mind so I know what kind of an asshole to call you.

[(Anonymous)]

You forget the part where someone trying to rape you is a simple consequence of going to a party, instead of a simple consequence of someone deciding to have sex with you without your permission.

And not wanting someone to rape you is the same thing as saying "I WILL DO ANYTHING I WANT RIGHT NOW AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT (EVEN THOUGH I REALISTICALLY KNOW THERE IS)".

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[(Anonymous)]

Ha, you don't believe in calling out rape culture. You're perpetrating it. The irresponsible person is the rapist. You're skirting reaaally close to the "she was asking for it" line.

+1

[(Anonymous)]

yeah if you get raped it's your fault someone couldn't keep their penis out of you