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I learned early on when LJers were catching on to Shitsurakuen that the fans were really really bad news.

well what do you expect with a canon like that

From a fun, yuri friendly action series?

I would have expected a bunch of guys.

if by fun you mean dull, trite, and poorly written, then yeah I guess it is a fun yuri series

lmao this. I tried reading the series but it was so ridiculously forced, ham-fisted, and overall stupid that I couldn't make it through more than a few chapters.

for what it's worth, the final couple of chapters change everything

Not the previous anon, but the first da. Do the final couple of chapters explain the setting any? Because my biggest beef with it was the worldbuilding. Like, there's this company that's powerful enough to run a school that's a twisted social experiment and to keep it a secret from the rest of the world. But how do they have that power? How do they use that power? How do they keep the kids from telling their parents about it? How do they keep the parents from telling the world about it? Are the people involved bribed? Blackmailed? Assassinated? Does it take place in some kind of cyber-punk dystopia where corporations rule the world? How do they do it, because the manga does a very poor job of explaining it beyond Glasses Girl saying that "bad things" happen.

That's not my only problem with the worldbuilding. My biggest one, by far, is the contradictory role of the girls in the school. Assuming Glasses Girl isn't straight-up lying, girls are only there to be used, abused, and to show the male students just how inferior and useless the female gender is. But, if they're supposed to be useless, then why do powerful weapons come out of their chest (by the way, nice Utena rip-off there. I heard that it takes a lot of cues from RGU, but I didn't expect to see blatant plagiarism). It completely undermines the "moral" that the company head wants to teach, and is an idiotic oversimplification of sexism in society and individuals. Even in the most sexist of societies, a woman still had some role and some worth, even if it was only to have and raise children for the next generation. Now, if they wanted to have the Stanford Gender Roles Experiment and their Rose Bride bullshit, maybe they could show a twisted idea of what a woman's worth is. But the way it's shown in the manga (or at least early on in the manga) is just eyeroll worthy.

Also, what do parents of female students and the female students themselves think they're going to get out of this school? Yeah, it's prestigious on the outside, but once they see their daughters coming home as broken shells, people are going to realize that something is up. Maybe the girls could be arranged into marriages to boys and men from powerful and prestigious families, and will be taken care of. The parents could be bastards and think it's a good way to straighten up unruly daughters (and may or may not be aware of just how bad it is). Maybe female students could be purposely selected from negligent families who wouldn't notice or care if something is wrong. Or, again, we could go with bribery or blackmail. Buuut is any of this explained? From what I read, n o p e. It's just the "oh the president is a misogynist who can make bad things happen to people who go against him."

tl;dr the world and plot has more holes in it than swiss cheese, and unless the ending fills them up, I'm not going back to it.

Yuri-friendly

Yeah. That's why Sora got married to an abusive, insane and manipulative bitch.

yuri friendly

Uh...you do realize the manga ended with the heroine married to an abusive bitch, and several girls apologize to the men that abused them, right? The manga took the stance that it wasn't their fault somehow.

This manga is disliked a lot in yuri fandom and usually gets called Shit-surakuen for a reason.

I would have expected a bunch of guys.

Yuri fandom's like half female. Most people in yuri panels or yuri anime screenings at the cons I visit tend to be female, too.

one of the shitsurakuen haters here. in their defense, I thiiink the manga-ka tried to show how the sexism in the school was a result of systematic sexism. That said, it did a very poor job of explaining it, and the fact that it had the girls apologizing to their abusers makes me literally sick to my stomach. I didn't get that far in the manga, but...ick.

Adding that the manga-ka ran out of time at Shitsurakuen was cancelled, so he had to suddenly shove everything in he wanted to get in so it would have an ending.

The attempt itself isn't bad, and could have been useful.

But making the victims be the ones that actually apologize to the perps, not the other way round? No. Ick indeed.

Even if it's a rushed ending, that's just ick.

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