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[anticirclejerk]

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I am going to delete all the dumb, aspergers worthy discussion threads.

this is not the place for talking about butts and farts and shrimp. take that to your plurk or rpanons.

"No kidding. This breach of privacy can be argued on the fact that the people posting the caps were given permission to be in the private links. So the fault isn't on Anticirclejerk or the ACJ mod, but the component that decided to make the screencap." - Anon

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Yes. I'm very sure.

She doesn't use dreamwidth or even check these places.

I may not like what she has done, but karma has hit her for it. She has made a marked change.

[(Anonymous)]

that still doesn't change the fact that just because you talk to her all day, on a regular basis, online doesn't mean you actually know her like you think you do. marcus talked to her online all the time but still didn't know her. alpha could be saying anything at all to you, but then get off her laptop and do something completely different. even if she seems completely honest and genuine. you don't know what she does or thinks while walking around her daily life. i'm not bashing or defending her at this point, i'm calling your stupid ass out on the fact that you too, also, DON'T KNOW ANYTHING.

[(Anonymous)]

I know much more than that otherwise I wouldn't say anything here.

Unlike many people her hopeful to see any and all news on her like the rumor-magazines in grocery store racks, I know my facts.

Whether or not Alpha keeps her word is for her to decide, but I have seen a change in her that shows promise.

[(Anonymous)]

so you know her more than marcus and adoricrack did? lmao okay. everyone go home.

[(Anonymous)]

I know her just as well as they did, yes.

da

[(Anonymous)]

You know her just as well as people who lived with her, had sex with her, and physically been with her in giant ups and down throughout life? You know her just as much as someone who has been in five year, physical romantic relationship with her?

You are only blowing smoke now. Unless you can back up what you're saying, then leave. How do you know her "just as well as they did"? What has she done that "shows promise"? If you can't give answers, then you shouldn't have come to this thread running your mouth in the first place. All you look like right now is an idiot who kisses Alpha's feet.

[amapleleafgirl]

I am Carolyn. I know what I have been through.

I honestly don't like that everyone's been holding on to this for as long as they have been. I cannot stop you or your anger, but I am more than aware. I only recently moved over to dreamwidth and heard of this place but to know these threads are still happening honestly saddens me. It doesn't make me angry as I understand how much she has hurt others. I do understand that.

She has done horrible, horrible things. I am very aware and I will live with that for the rest of my life. At the same time, I know she has changed, hence my silence and respect for her attempts to make good on a promise I made with her.

I do not deny at all that I once kissed her feet and praised the ground she walked upon. I was blinded by love. I am not blinded now.

I will say this once: I am not defending her actions of the past, but her change of now. She is not who she was. I of all people should be allowed to say that.

I have given her this chance because I truly do still care about her even if we are not together. I do not want her to squander her chances and so far, she has made good on her word to change, even if it was too late for our relationship.

Is that enough for you?

I am sorry for being anonymous about all of this, but can you really blame me? This kind of thing was a big stress-source back when I was in Korea and my only friends tended to be online. (I've made a bunch since arriving back in Canada and it's been a very refreshing, colourful and free life.)

[(Anonymous)]

I commend your efforts and understand what you're trying to do, but you should have learned by now that speaking out and trying to defend her is pointless, as well as harmful. The fact that you've taken this amount of time and energy on her, once again, proves it's still stressful to you. Let it be,

And to be quite honest, if people refuse and don't want to see Alpha in a new light, then don't fight them on it. Alpha doesn't deserve to be redeemed, in my humble opinion. Maybe to you, but that's a different case and I'm assuming you two may plan on getting back together someday, so there's that. For some of us, we won't change our minds until we actually see her do things. That's how it is.

Ignore places like these communities. Yes, threads like these still happen. That is nothing new and Alpha isn't special in that sense; everyone gets the same treatment. Yes, it's sad, but so is the entire point of the community. So stop going to them. I'm honestly surprised you even showed up at all. You need to let go already.

[amapleleafgirl]

I showed up completely accidentally, as stupid as that may sound. I was trying to find the source of something that was getting popular with a few friends and found it came from this place, then noticed there was a namedropping thread, then found this (and yes, I'll fully admit I've read the others.)

I don't intend to change people's point of view on her. She abused me. She will be hated by many people for a very long time. I fully accept that. Be that as it may, she hasn't shown the key aspects of what made her the person she was with me in a very long time.

I suppose maybe it's only a silly hope of mine that she'll escape her mother's shadow and become better than the people who raised her to act just as they do. I've always been naive like that. I want to believe people can change and, believe me, I have had my chance to tell her my true feelings about the time we were together and what she did to me.

I'm not the same person I once was, either, nor am I so eager to get back together again as I am none too keen on being hurt again. She knows this. It is another reason she is working to change.

Believe me when I say this, though. I only came to this community to find reference to something called "mama doesn't need to be judged right now." Finding this was just a sad reminder of something I wanted to forget.

I won't be back. I suppose I just really wanted to say my piece even if it was said in part all that time ago back in Korea. Even then, however, I was still afraid to fully state my mind due to fear or judgment and of repercussion, something I still battle with despite our separation.

It wasn't so much defending as it was an honest attempt to clarify. I spent the entire morning talking to her about this spending issue. Believe me, I'm an overbearing SOB when I want to be, but if she wants to change then she realizes I'm not going to let her be who she once was even if I have to breathe down her neck about things.

Anyway, I'm rambling. Again, I'm sorry about this and all. I just really wanted to state something since I honestly haven't spoken a word about this since last year to anyone but my sister and parents.

Thank you for understanding and, in turn, I do understand you and your anger. I hold nothing against you for having it. Believe me.

da

[(Anonymous)]

You are such a liar, holy shit. It's obvious with your wording that you've been all over these posts for a while.

dda

[(Anonymous)]

didn't she say upthread (while still anon) that she went and read every acj namedrop thread on every post?

Re: dda

[(Anonymous)]

*that is she read them all in one day

da

[(Anonymous)]

I was going to stay quiet, but you know what? I'll bite a little.

If Alpha has genuinely matured and changed; if she is no longer the person she once was, then there is one thing she should have done by now. Something that is long overdue and well needed.

She needs to personally contact adoricrack and apologize. If she cannot even do that, then she hasn't truly changed as a human being. Being bitter and "wanting to put it behind her and forget" are instant signal excuses that she is no different than she once was. She, no, wait—her and adoricrack both need to put on their big girl pants, apologize and make their final amends. That way they can finally put it behind the both of them. Because as it is, there is still a looming cloud of anger and hate, no matter what size it may be. I don't think Alpha will completely grow until she can accomplish this.

So until then, I'm unconvinced.

+1

[(Anonymous)]

I remember seeing on adoricrack's plurk before it got privated stating she wasn't all that angry with Alpha in the first place, just annoyed with how she was behaving throughout the whole thing.

Though, it makes me wonder if adoricrack will accept Alpha's apology now after years later.

Re: +1

[(Anonymous)]

Whether adoricrack will accept an apology from Alpha now or not doesn't matter. Alpha needs to be the better person (if she has supposedly become one) and go forth with an apology because it is the right thing to do. That, and it is something that she should do. Despite everything that has happened in the past, the two of them need to make amends and live happily, on their own paths and with clear minds.

[amapleleafgirl]

I agree with you, there.

[(Anonymous)]

shhh.

[(Anonymous)]

just stop

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, right. You probably think Alpha was still *~wronged~* by adoricrack during their five-year long relationship, as well as during the shitstorm wank that occurred a year ago. Y'know, despite the years of emotional/verbal/mental abuse, neglect, etc. Alpha put adoricrack through and the various negative scenarios that occurred between them that you will never be aware of. You thought you went through a lot? Imagine what adoricrack went through for five long years. And this all took place in a physical spectrum, unlike how you two had the fortune of dating online for awhile.

Either way you spent years listening to Alpha's lies on how adoricrack is messed up and that she has "problems". Oh and how she was the problem in the relationship. I'm sure you still believe a lot of it, so don't try and act like you suddenly agree that Alpha should apologize. You would probably agree with her if she states that she has reasons to never apologize to her ex, whom actually deserves an apology more than anyone, more than you.

So get out of here. You're a liar. Alpha is a liar. You are both mongers who lives off this shit (thus why Alpha still puts IP trackers on her Twitter HMMMM). Alpha will never change so stop kidding yourself and trying to prove it to us. If you want to wait and see when and if you finally get back together, then be our fucking guest. You'll regret, but it seems like that's what you want. You two really were made for each other.

[(Anonymous)]

You two are obviously planning on getting back together. I bet this promise you keep mentioning is that you'll go back out with her if she gets her life together and changes. Alpha makes it obvious herself with an "It's Complicated" love status and other vague talk here and there. You two are still in love, and for you to come in here and try and "open our eyes" to how she has ~*changed*~ is still your heart talking. Even if you do buff it up with how she deserves the hate she gets and OH NO I UNDERSTAND REALLY. Everything you say doesn't matter to me because of that.

Sorry, but Alpha is and will always be a bitch. Nothing will convince me otherwise. I don't care what she goes through and how you think it may have remodeled her. Take your ass (which is obviously in love with Alpha) out of here and keep to your word on not come back for once.

+1

[(Anonymous)]

glad i am not the only one who can see that. she says that she was blinded by love back then, when they are together. problem is, she is being blinded by love NOW too. it might not be as drastic or as huge of a blindness, but it still is. she is being blinded by love when looking at her change. and just like on twitter a year ago, she is speaking out against us and defending her because of her feelings for alpha.

honestly, i think that they are dating and carolyn is only lying when saying they aren't. they are probably on some kind of weird "dating but not really" terms, but tell each other that they love one another and are pseudo-dating. and we should have known it was carolyn in this thread all along tbh. who else would go so far to whiteknight her other than her girlfriend/going to be girlfriend?really.

+11111

[(Anonymous)]

who does this really?

[(Anonymous)]

Anon, you have good intentions, but Alpha and Marcus deserve each other. Truly. They're both lying, poisonous assholes to the nth degree and they thrive on wank and drama. Alpha is probably touching herself to this thread right now because she is so stuck up her own ass that she thinks everyone spends every waking moment thinking/talking about her anyway, so you're all just giving her what she wants. Let it go and let's hope they both fuck off forever.

[(Anonymous)]

... I thought you said a long time ago you weren't going to do this anymore. You really don't learn, do you?

[(Anonymous)]

No, you didn't. Just because she would let you in on things that happened to her doesn't mean you knew her as much as people who her in a relationship with her. I can't believe you actually think that.