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I am going to delete all the dumb, aspergers worthy discussion threads.

this is not the place for talking about butts and farts and shrimp. take that to your plurk or rpanons.

ps you guys should link me new gifs or all you're going to get from now on is jensen ackles

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Is she the Dave player that threw a massive shitfit upon getting concrit, or am I getting my wankers mixed?

Stop whiteknighting and being in denial.

It's really a question of the amount of information though, because some things don't have a quick shorthand answer.

It is pretty unreasonable to expect that someone on the internet is going to type out for you a summary of, for example, a history that a whole tradition of authors have written dozens of books on. It's frankly not realistic to think that someone is going to boil that all down to the size of a single reply on a blog for you.

I'm not saying they shouldn't point you in the right direction and give you an idea where they're coming from, but if you really give a shit about knowing what they're talking about? At some point you can't expect them to do the work or just spoon feed you the compiled information from a dozen different 300 page history books.

There is a way to learn things without someone on the internet taking the time to explain them to you. It's called reading books that have already been written on a topic and making use of the time that published authors have already put in to doing the explaining.

I feel sorry for Tom Hiddleston, dude seems to be a cool guy and yet he attracts so many creeps.

I enjoyed the thread with Apollo and Yuffie more.

Oh god all of this times a million. Said it better than I could have.

Hopefully she'll learn from Atarax and not be like "ZOMG BUFFY HAS TO BE THE SPESHULEST EVER".

I'd like to hope that, but I doubt it'll happen. Tifa never changes, no matter what issues are raised with her playing style.

Go ask the abax crew

lmao i love how that's justification for acting like a dick

not being able to work with someone doesn't make you edgy it makes you a sack of shit

I do agree with this wholeheartedly, but it seems as though a lot of the people who do this don't even bother with the "pointing people in the right direction" part. I usually end up engaging in SJ-based debates quite a lot, and so accordingly I like to keep a stock of links to blogs, articles and books for people who are actually interested in learning. I appreciate that this is an emotionally exhausting subject for many people- it is for me too!- but I already decided that if I'm going to engage in these conversations I need to be prepared to offer educational materials. No one goes into an argument thinking that they're wrong (trolls and debate team members excluded): while the tone people use can sometimes rankle and seem entitled or self-centered, if I want to get through to them I do need to meet them half-way.

That's what most people that combat social shit to - nothing too special, I do that myself.

I've yet to see a person other than GNN that's actually aggressive about this and doesn't have any links at all. I suspect they aren't anywhere as common as some people claim they are.

To be fair, GNN has about a dozen sockpuppets, so it's easy to think that little shit is more than one person.

Didn't Ariel give her permission? Any deets on what actually went down?

they're new to journal RP tho

http://dumbthingswhitepplsay.tumblr.com/post/24730789131/so-about-cruelestyouths-post-about-kissing-up-what

Because it's completely missing the point in at least three different ways.
The first two show why it is derailing to ask the argument and expect an answer honestly, the third why the argument is derailing in general because it's pointless in the first place.

1)You cannot prove that something is wide-spread without serious usage of funds and a scientific study. No reasonable person expects this of someone on a blog/LJ. If you do, you are therefore pretty obviously derailing. It's the same as demanding 100% proof that it's raining where another person is, because you doubt it, since it's not raining where you are.

2)It's not possible to completely prove, especially in a internet setting, because of the nature of anonymity. Take the F/F bashing as an example. Lots of people immediately claim it's all trolling, so they can continue it. This leads to a)the shit continuing, and b)no action being done because it's "just trolls". It is completely impossible to prove that the people, despite their large numbers, aren't actually trolls, and no force in this world short of a major secret service could prove otherwise. This would require breaking the constitution.
This, too, is why it's derailing. You cannot exactly expect a random commentor on the internet to provide secret-service level information.

3)It's completely missing the point in the first place because it does not matter if it is wide spread.

If I post shock images of mutilated women to you in ways that you end up seeing, to scare you out of a game, this is a problem even if I do this only to you, only in one game. It's clearly not a wide-spread problem, because I only do it to you here, but it's still incredibly shitty behavior.

To go back to the F/F example, it doesn't matter if not every F/F roleplayer is getting shock image spam. That some do, and that someone went out of their way to try to shut a game down with this, is already a problem even if it isn't wide spread.

That's why the argument is derailing. It's asking something that the other player cannot give you, and is pointless in the first place because it doesn't matter. You are thus focusing on "wide spread", to avoid addressing the actual issue. That's really what derailment refers to.

You wouldn't even be asking this if the topic wasn't prejudice. If the topic was "you saw someone you know keying your car", your first thought wouldn't be "but is my problem wide-spread and therefore, am I allowed to voice a complaint". No, you'd see damage on your car, and you'd ask the responsible authorities to do something about it.

You'd not really be pleased if the authorities would then shut everything down and ask you to prove if your experience is wide-spread, no?

All derailment means is that you try to focus on things that aren't actually the issue. And the question is: Why are you doing that?

I agree. Also, gay people should hide that they are gay at all times, because if not, they are bringing attention to themselves and obviously only expected a cookie. Which is why gay people holding hands are disgusting.

Similarly, PoC that don't make their hair resemble that of white people are trying to get attention by being ethnic, and thus deserve any shit they get. Fucking attention whores.

Spoiler: Randomly mentioning your gender the same way 4chan nerds often do isn't attention whoring. 4chan nerds mention that they are male all the time. They just rarely notice that they are doing so, and then freak out when an icky girl does the exact same thing they just did.

fucking this. i actually really enjoy loki as a character because he's flawed and doesn't operate on human logic, therefore could never be 'cured' of those flaws. but i'm hesitant to talk about him, much less try to play him or anything because i'll get grouped in with these stupid fucks.

it was atarax right? they have posted some links on their thread + past threads.

omg tally, can you be any less awkward and embarrassing?

ok

but if someone is going to cuss me out, fling personal insults, talk down to me and generally be rude, why should I listen? you're being too aggressive/hostile may be derailment but on the other hand, I don't think I'm obligated to stick around and take abuse just because someone's hiding behind their social justice crusade.

don't kid yourself they all sit around and shit talk everyone else all day. her friends are no better than she is. those who belong to her inner circle anyway. shana aka that spike, ruthi, arden yeah i was surprised too, brandi and chris.

are you kidding? atarax has some of the best OCs i have ever played with. who are you talking about anon?

if this is true then she has sealed your fate

Fucking this. If you don't want to educate, don't try to get your Social Justice cred cookies, because that's what social justice work fucking IS. If you're not willing to educate, at most you can express outrage.

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